S2E2 | Do People Want to Work for Your Company? Joe Kale on How Your Culture Will Determine Your Fate

This episode of the Principled podcast finds our host, Marsha Ershaghi Hames, speaking with Joseph Kale, executive director of ethics and compliance at Creative Associates International. Kale describes his experience building and running the ethics and compliance program at Lockheed Martin. 


The pair discuss the current focus on corporate culture as the ultimate competitive advantage that companies can leverage. They cover why culture matters and how stakeholders are key to change a culture. Kale explains how critical it is all levels of leadership exhibit behavior aligned with company values, and how any inconsistencies can be rectified.

What You’ll Learn on This Episode
[0:57] How did you enter the compliance and ethics field?


[3:49] In your career, what levers or influences do you see in the design of effective compliance and ethics programs?


[5:18] As companies are evolving their compliance and ethics strategies, what hallmarks are you seeing for them to scale their impact?


[7:08] Why does company culture matter?


[8:36] Who are the stakeholders that need to be collaborated with on the inside to really improve company culture?


[10:35] How do you catalyze in middle layer of an organization to mobilize the messaging from the top?


[12:57] How can inconsistent behavior be addressed and scaled when you are doing business outside the U.S.?


[14:52] What are some of the potential disruptors to culture being everyone’s responsibility?


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